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		<title>By: linux_miheeff_ru</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-5029</link>
		<dc:creator>linux_miheeff_ru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>ELF: Executable and Linkable Format<br />
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The symbol is associated with a data object, such as a variable, an array, etc.<br />
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The symbol is associated with a function or other executable code.<br />
STT_SECTION<br />
The symbol is associated with a section. Symbol table entries of this type exist pri-<br />
marily for relocation and normally have STB_LOCAL binding.<br />
STT_FILE<br />
Conventionally, the symbol&#8217;s name gives the name of the source file associated with the<br />
object file. A file symbol has STB_LOCAL binding, its section index is SHN_ABS , and it<br />
precedes the other STB_LOCAL symbols for the file, if it is present.<br />
STT_LOPROC through STT_HIPROC<br />
Values in this inclusive range are reserved for processor-specific semantics.<br />
Function symbols (those with type STT_FUNC ) in shared object files have special significance. When<br />
another object file references a function from a shared object, the link editor automatically creates a pro-<br />
cedure linkage table entry for the referenced symbol. Shared object symbols with types other than<br />
STT_FUNC will not be referenced automatically through the procedure linkage table.<br />
If a symbol&#8217;s value refers to a specific location within a section, its section index member, st_shndx ,<br />
holds an index into the section header table. As the section moves during relocation, the symbol&#8217;s value<br />
changes as well, and references to the symbol continue to &#8221;point&#8221; to the same location in the program.<br />
Some special section index values give other semantics.<br />
SHN_ABS<br />
The symbol has an absolute value that will not change because of relocation.<br />
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The symbol labels a common block that has not yet been allocated. The symbol&#8217;s value<br />
gives alignment constraints, similar to a section&#8217;s sh_addralign member. That is, the<br />
link editor will allocate the storage for the symbol at an address that is a multiple of<br />
st_value . The symbol&#8217;s size tells how many bytes are required.<br />
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		<title>By: rhett</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-4371</link>
		<dc:creator>rhett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you find out anything interesting from 23andme about your genome?  I recently interviewed at a computational genomics startup, and this is blowing me away.  Right now, it would cost around $100k to sequence your whole genome, but that is getting 10x cheaper every 4 years (or possibly faster), which means that in 8 years it should cost under $1k.

When my son was 12 weeks from conception, a doctor asked us if we wanted to check to see if he had down syndrome (or possibly other things) so we would still have the option to abort.  I imagine that in 8 years people will start aborting left-handed or green eyed fetuses.  It will certainly raise a lot of ethical issues.  God help us if they find a &quot;gay gene&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you find out anything interesting from 23andme about your genome?  I recently interviewed at a computational genomics startup, and this is blowing me away.  Right now, it would cost around $100k to sequence your whole genome, but that is getting 10x cheaper every 4 years (or possibly faster), which means that in 8 years it should cost under $1k.</p>
<p>When my son was 12 weeks from conception, a doctor asked us if we wanted to check to see if he had down syndrome (or possibly other things) so we would still have the option to abort.  I imagine that in 8 years people will start aborting left-handed or green eyed fetuses.  It will certainly raise a lot of ethical issues.  God help us if they find a &#8220;gay gene&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan scolnick</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>jonathan scolnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>knome offers full genome sequencing now, but its $350k.  The SNP thing (23andMe) is crazy--they dont provide much info.  buzz around the biology community (of which I am a part) is that someone is going to offer sequence of all of your genes soon, leaving out the the &#039;junk&#039;.  hopefully it will be much less than knome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>knome offers full genome sequencing now, but its $350k.  The SNP thing (23andMe) is crazy&#8211;they dont provide much info.  buzz around the biology community (of which I am a part) is that someone is going to offer sequence of all of your genes soon, leaving out the the &#8216;junk&#8217;.  hopefully it will be much less than knome.</p>
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		<title>By: nat</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pierre - Hah!  I&#039;m afraid that might be about what I get.  We&#039;ll see :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pierre &#8211; Hah!  I&#8217;m afraid that might be about what I get.  We&#8217;ll see <img src='http://nat.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pierre HOPQUIN</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre HOPQUIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting, if you have another 1000 bucks to lose, you can paypal me I&#039;ll do you a nice handdraw sketch from your picture in return :D

Anyway, this is a cool article and biometrics are only at their beginnings. Soon the time will come when we live like in &quot;demolition man&quot;.

Actually there is still a growing IRIS picture base, which is told to be unique to each individual, just like fingerprints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting, if you have another 1000 bucks to lose, you can paypal me I&#8217;ll do you a nice handdraw sketch from your picture in return <img src='http://nat.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, this is a cool article and biometrics are only at their beginnings. Soon the time will come when we live like in &#8220;demolition man&#8221;.</p>
<p>Actually there is still a growing IRIS picture base, which is told to be unique to each individual, just like fingerprints.</p>
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		<title>By: nat</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kelly - Good point, thanks for your comment.  I&#039;m not sure why the wordpress comment system gives you a blank page after you submit your comments on my web site, but I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s not Javascript-related.

@Jamie - Oops, you&#039;re right.  I wonder how much data is in all that digestive-tract DNA.  Also, 25 Megs doesn&#039;t cover the information necessary to specify a human egg cell, or mitochondrial DNA.  It also isn&#039;t nearly enough to capture the full state of a human brain, so the people you could put on your iPod wouldn&#039;t be your &quot;friends&quot; in any real sense, more like &quot;clones of your friends.&quot;

@Adam - Good article.  I&#039;m intrigued but remain a bit skeptical whether these services are worth anything near the cost.  I hope to find out...

@EbilPhish - Woah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kelly &#8211; Good point, thanks for your comment.  I&#8217;m not sure why the wordpress comment system gives you a blank page after you submit your comments on my web site, but I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s not Javascript-related.</p>
<p>@Jamie &#8211; Oops, you&#8217;re right.  I wonder how much data is in all that digestive-tract DNA.  Also, 25 Megs doesn&#8217;t cover the information necessary to specify a human egg cell, or mitochondrial DNA.  It also isn&#8217;t nearly enough to capture the full state of a human brain, so the people you could put on your iPod wouldn&#8217;t be your &#8220;friends&#8221; in any real sense, more like &#8220;clones of your friends.&#8221;</p>
<p>@Adam &#8211; Good article.  I&#8217;m intrigued but remain a bit skeptical whether these services are worth anything near the cost.  I hope to find out&#8230;</p>
<p>@EbilPhish &#8211; Woah.</p>
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		<title>By: EbilPhish</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>EbilPhish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I recommend looking at taking out a copyright on your genome, just in case you have some important DNA like the highlander gene and don&#039;t want a company discovering it and calamining copyright of it or want to try and stop someone cloning you.

http://www.creativetime.org/programs/archive/2000/DNAidBillboard/dnaid/copyright-instructions.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I recommend looking at taking out a copyright on your genome, just in case you have some important DNA like the highlander gene and don&#8217;t want a company discovering it and calamining copyright of it or want to try and stop someone cloning you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.creativetime.org/programs/archive/2000/DNAidBillboard/dnaid/copyright-instructions.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.creativetime.org/programs/archive/2000/DNAidBillboard/dnaid/copyright-instructions.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adam Williamson</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Points to consider:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jan/22/genetics.health</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Points to consider:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jan/22/genetics.health" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jan/22/genetics.health</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Zawinski</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Zawinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you underestimate the number of bits necessary to reconstruct a human, because you&#039;re ignoring the thousands of other distinct genomes that are needed in order to bootstrap a functioning body, e.g., the many thousands of species of intestinal bacteria without whom we completely fail to function.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you underestimate the number of bits necessary to reconstruct a human, because you&#8217;re ignoring the thousands of other distinct genomes that are needed in order to bootstrap a functioning body, e.g., the many thousands of species of intestinal bacteria without whom we completely fail to function.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2008/02/personal-genetics/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Only about 3% of all human DNA actually codes for proteins, and the rest is ignored and generally referred to as â€œjunk DNA.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Besides coding DNA and junk DNA, there is also regulatory DNA, which controls things like when coding DNA is active.

I can hardly wait until you can get your entire genome sequenced for a few thousand dollars.

PS Is there a way to make the submission not require JS? I use NoScript and ended up retyping my comment after granting temporary permissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Only about 3% of all human DNA actually codes for proteins, and the rest is ignored and generally referred to as â€œjunk DNA.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>Besides coding DNA and junk DNA, there is also regulatory DNA, which controls things like when coding DNA is active.</p>
<p>I can hardly wait until you can get your entire genome sequenced for a few thousand dollars.</p>
<p>PS Is there a way to make the submission not require JS? I use NoScript and ended up retyping my comment after granting temporary permissions.</p>
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