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		<title>By: Cheapest Car Breakdown Cover - Finding Cover Online is Easy!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: repliche orologi prezzi</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-7653</link>
		<dc:creator>repliche orologi prezzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Japanese Car Auctions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Japanese Car Auctions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alex Graveley</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6247</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Graveley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The glissade (or butt-sled ride) down Shasta remains one of my all-time favorite hiking experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The glissade (or butt-sled ride) down Shasta remains one of my all-time favorite hiking experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6222</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need to worry about wild aminals in the Alps. Avalanches are a bigger threat. Consider the Lawinenwarndienst and take their warnings seriously before going camping in the snow.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Walden</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6206</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Walden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and also hike in a group if you think you have particular reason to worry about mountain lions due to size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and also hike in a group if you think you have particular reason to worry about mountain lions due to size.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Walden</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Walden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If European bears are anything like US bears, they&#039;re usually more afraid of you than you are of them.  The east-coast black bears I&#039;ve seen almost invariably bolted -- not an exaggeration -- when they saw me.  One or two watched me lazily from a safe distance.  Noise and talking would have scared them away (if I&#039;d wanted to scare them away!).  I don&#039;t have experience with west-coast bears, but again, they still mostly leave you alone.  Conventional wisdom is you fight small black bears and play dead with large brown/grizzly bears, but I don&#039;t recall rigorous studies of the matter; it seems to me DON&#039;T PANIC is a very solid first step, then you can evaluate from there.

Regarding mountain lions, if you see one in their habitats you&#039;re lucky -- they&#039;re even more reclusive than bears.  Non-small adults are basically safe from them.  Kids, pets (should be leashed, a dog is a mountain lion&#039;s idea of a solid meal), and smaller adults might have some reason to worry, but just Act Big (raise hands, open up jacket, etc.) and they&#039;re going to retreat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If European bears are anything like US bears, they&#8217;re usually more afraid of you than you are of them.  The east-coast black bears I&#8217;ve seen almost invariably bolted &#8212; not an exaggeration &#8212; when they saw me.  One or two watched me lazily from a safe distance.  Noise and talking would have scared them away (if I&#8217;d wanted to scare them away!).  I don&#8217;t have experience with west-coast bears, but again, they still mostly leave you alone.  Conventional wisdom is you fight small black bears and play dead with large brown/grizzly bears, but I don&#8217;t recall rigorous studies of the matter; it seems to me DON&#8217;T PANIC is a very solid first step, then you can evaluate from there.</p>
<p>Regarding mountain lions, if you see one in their habitats you&#8217;re lucky &#8212; they&#8217;re even more reclusive than bears.  Non-small adults are basically safe from them.  Kids, pets (should be leashed, a dog is a mountain lion&#8217;s idea of a solid meal), and smaller adults might have some reason to worry, but just Act Big (raise hands, open up jacket, etc.) and they&#8217;re going to retreat.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Walden</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6204</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Walden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Super-hyper-mega-important addition to your winter bivouac list: a closed-cell sleeping pad to insulate you from snow or the cold ground -- something like a Z-Rest or Ridge Rest.  You can&#039;t warm either up by any meaningful amount, so it&#039;d suck heat out of you all night.  Two&#039;s an even better idea.

Another requirement: WEAR A WARM HAT WHILE YOU SLEEP.  Exposed head == another easy place for the air to suck heat out of.  A mummy bag helps if you don&#039;t have a hat, but it&#039;s still not really sufficient on its own.

Also consider two sleeping bags rather than one as a way to deal with cooler temperatures if you don&#039;t handle cold as well as you&#039;d like.  This depends on the temp of the main bag, of course; I&#039;ve only tried this combining, say, a 20°F mummy and a 50°F summer fleece bag.  It&#039;s probably much less necessary if you&#039;re starting with a 0°F bag.  (This all depends on the outside temperature range, of course.)

Another practical tip: when you&#039;re ready to head to sleep, switch into a set of clothes solely for sleeping.  Whatever you wore during the day will have some sweat on it, and wet == cold in wintertime.  (Even worse: wet + cold + cotton.  Cotton is completely non-insulating when wet.  Cotton kills.  Get good synthetic clothes, long underwear and other stuff for day use, and use that instead.)  Switch back to day clothes when you wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super-hyper-mega-important addition to your winter bivouac list: a closed-cell sleeping pad to insulate you from snow or the cold ground &#8212; something like a Z-Rest or Ridge Rest.  You can&#8217;t warm either up by any meaningful amount, so it&#8217;d suck heat out of you all night.  Two&#8217;s an even better idea.</p>
<p>Another requirement: WEAR A WARM HAT WHILE YOU SLEEP.  Exposed head == another easy place for the air to suck heat out of.  A mummy bag helps if you don&#8217;t have a hat, but it&#8217;s still not really sufficient on its own.</p>
<p>Also consider two sleeping bags rather than one as a way to deal with cooler temperatures if you don&#8217;t handle cold as well as you&#8217;d like.  This depends on the temp of the main bag, of course; I&#8217;ve only tried this combining, say, a 20°F mummy and a 50°F summer fleece bag.  It&#8217;s probably much less necessary if you&#8217;re starting with a 0°F bag.  (This all depends on the outside temperature range, of course.)</p>
<p>Another practical tip: when you&#8217;re ready to head to sleep, switch into a set of clothes solely for sleeping.  Whatever you wore during the day will have some sweat on it, and wet == cold in wintertime.  (Even worse: wet + cold + cotton.  Cotton is completely non-insulating when wet.  Cotton kills.  Get good synthetic clothes, long underwear and other stuff for day use, and use that instead.)  Switch back to day clothes when you wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6195</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nat, check out my blog (hiking tag), there are several hikes around Munich I&#039;d recommend.  Zugspitze (Höllental route with via ferrata)is best when the weather is nice in summer.  Lenggries and Wendelstein might still be possible to hike now, though soon it&#039;ll be ski season there, when your biggest danger will be getting run over by either a grooming machine or a half-drunk wannabe racer  ;-)

No worry about bears in Germany.  There was one that wandered in a couple years ago... it terrorized sheep pastures until German farmers were authorized to shoot it  :-/

Cheers, Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nat, check out my blog (hiking tag), there are several hikes around Munich I&#8217;d recommend.  Zugspitze (Höllental route with via ferrata)is best when the weather is nice in summer.  Lenggries and Wendelstein might still be possible to hike now, though soon it&#8217;ll be ski season there, when your biggest danger will be getting run over by either a grooming machine or a half-drunk wannabe racer  <img src='http://nat.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No worry about bears in Germany.  There was one that wandered in a couple years ago&#8230; it terrorized sheep pastures until German farmers were authorized to shoot it  :-/</p>
<p>Cheers, Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Nat Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tips Sonja!</description>
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		<title>By: Nat Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story of JJ1 is pretty sad to me. I&#039;d heard it before from friends here in Munich, but never read about it till now. I&#039;m glad there are a few wild places left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story of JJ1 is pretty sad to me. I&#8217;d heard it before from friends here in Munich, but never read about it till now. I&#8217;m glad there are a few wild places left.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonja</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6191</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the last one (feel free to moderate this away after reading): Please, please stay on the paths. You are not the endangered one there, the plants and animals around you are. We have little nature left here in Europe, and the Alps are rather fragile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the last one (feel free to moderate this away after reading): Please, please stay on the paths. You are not the endangered one there, the plants and animals around you are. We have little nature left here in Europe, and the Alps are rather fragile.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I forgot: take the train and buses. There&#039;s no need to burden the Alps with even more cars ;-)</description>
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		<title>By: Sonja</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6189</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. No bears, mountain lions or wolves in the Alps, and they are unlikely to come back. Too many people. If you go eastwards near the Czech Border, or further east to Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine I think you could find some.

2. http://www.alpenverein.de/

3. The Alpenverein and its equivalents in Italia, Switzerland and Austria operate huts which offer simple accomodation. It can be rather touristy there in summer, but many of these huts have a so-called winter room even when they are closed: a sheltered place to sleep, sometimes even with a wood stove. Also, there are so called Biwakschachteln in the Alps, see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biwakschachtel .

Unless you insist on the tent, both Biwak huts and winter rooms may be acceptable alternatives which you don&#039;t have to lug around.

4. If you want real adventure, try the Tatra mountains in Slovakia / Czech Republik / Hungary. Or anything else in eastern Europe. The Alps are great, but there are many, many hikers there, as well as a certain amount of infrastructure for them. If you want to be on your own and alone for longer than a few hours, you might find them a little crowded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. No bears, mountain lions or wolves in the Alps, and they are unlikely to come back. Too many people. If you go eastwards near the Czech Border, or further east to Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine I think you could find some.</p>
<p>2. <a href="http://www.alpenverein.de/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alpenverein.de/</a></p>
<p>3. The Alpenverein and its equivalents in Italia, Switzerland and Austria operate huts which offer simple accomodation. It can be rather touristy there in summer, but many of these huts have a so-called winter room even when they are closed: a sheltered place to sleep, sometimes even with a wood stove. Also, there are so called Biwakschachteln in the Alps, see <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biwakschachtel" rel="nofollow">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biwakschachtel</a> .</p>
<p>Unless you insist on the tent, both Biwak huts and winter rooms may be acceptable alternatives which you don&#8217;t have to lug around.</p>
<p>4. If you want real adventure, try the Tatra mountains in Slovakia / Czech Republik / Hungary. Or anything else in eastern Europe. The Alps are great, but there are many, many hikers there, as well as a certain amount of infrastructure for them. If you want to be on your own and alone for longer than a few hours, you might find them a little crowded.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6188</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here are some pictures of a nice via ferrata (klettersteig) in south tyrol: http://picasaweb.google.de/fl3x888/KlettersteigMasareUndRotwand#</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here are some pictures of a nice via ferrata (klettersteig) in south tyrol: <a href="http://picasaweb.google.de/fl3x888/KlettersteigMasareUndRotwand#" rel="nofollow">http://picasaweb.google.de/fl3x888/KlettersteigMasareUndRotwand#</a></p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the last bear who wandered around was shot by hysteric germans (bavarians) ;) the austrians and pseudo austrians (south tyrol) tolerated JJ1 (the bear) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the last bear who wandered around was shot by hysteric germans (bavarians) <img src='http://nat.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  the austrians and pseudo austrians (south tyrol) tolerated JJ1 (the bear) <img src='http://nat.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nat Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m excited to do shasta with Jeffrey! I&#039;m so glad he invited me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m excited to do shasta with Jeffrey! I&#8217;m so glad he invited me.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/hiking/comment-page-1/#comment-6184</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy up with someone that goes backpacking a lot and go on a trip with them the first time. If you suggest an easy hike you might even talk them into carrying the extras like a bag of wine. :)

My one piece of advice would be to pack as light as possible. If you search for &quot;light backpacking&quot; you&#039;ll get a lot of advice. Just take one set of really warm clothes in layers and a really good sleeping bag. (And I&#039;d wait until summer, if I were you.)

As far as wild animals go, the one I always get confused about is brown bears versus black bears. With one you act big, with the other you act dead. One eats dead things and one doesn&#039;t. Although when I actually ran into one, I didn&#039;t get a choice as my dog decided she needed to defend me and started barking at it. It ran away so it must have been the kind that ate dead things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy up with someone that goes backpacking a lot and go on a trip with them the first time. If you suggest an easy hike you might even talk them into carrying the extras like a bag of wine. <img src='http://nat.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My one piece of advice would be to pack as light as possible. If you search for &#8220;light backpacking&#8221; you&#8217;ll get a lot of advice. Just take one set of really warm clothes in layers and a really good sleeping bag. (And I&#8217;d wait until summer, if I were you.)</p>
<p>As far as wild animals go, the one I always get confused about is brown bears versus black bears. With one you act big, with the other you act dead. One eats dead things and one doesn&#8217;t. Although when I actually ran into one, I didn&#8217;t get a choice as my dog decided she needed to defend me and started barking at it. It ran away so it must have been the kind that ate dead things.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this Via Ferrata is one of the coolest things I&#039;ve seen in a long time. I&#039;ll give it a try in the spring! Thanks Christian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this Via Ferrata is one of the coolest things I&#8217;ve seen in a long time. I&#8217;ll give it a try in the spring! Thanks Christian!</p>
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		<title>By: Nat Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a great option. I&#039;ve just read that membership includes rescue insurance, too. Nice.</description>
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