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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/powered-by-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-6498</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 07:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually most people lumped under &quot;those who oppose immigration&quot; oppose only non-white immigration.  Thus you (Nat) argue the wrong point.  Or even more accurately, they oppose non-white immigrants as well as immigrants of any race who also go on welfare of one form or another -- and I include taking university admission slots that for the most part Americans are forced to pay for.  

A good book on the immigration issue is  Alien Nation  by ... an immigrant!  -- from England, one Peter Brimelow.  See http://www.vdare.com/alien_nation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually most people lumped under &#8220;those who oppose immigration&#8221; oppose only non-white immigration.  Thus you (Nat) argue the wrong point.  Or even more accurately, they oppose non-white immigrants as well as immigrants of any race who also go on welfare of one form or another &#8212; and I include taking university admission slots that for the most part Americans are forced to pay for.  </p>
<p>A good book on the immigration issue is  Alien Nation  by &#8230; an immigrant!  &#8212; from England, one Peter Brimelow.  See <a href="http://www.vdare.com/alien_nation" rel="nofollow">http://www.vdare.com/alien_nation</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex Nowrasteh</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/powered-by-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-6170</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Nowrasteh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fastest growing group of illegal immigrants in California are Indians, most of whom are highly skilled and overstay their H-1B visas in hopes of attaining a green card.  

As this article states:

&quot;&#039;They come here as professionals, most often in the H-1B program, and given the fluctuations of Silicon Valley, the business climate, these guys lose their jobs. They get laid off or they wager their hands on a start-up coming in,&#039; Jack said. &#039;The problem with the H-1B program is, you can’t have any significant time between jobs” without falling out of legal status.&#039;&quot; 

http://escapefromindia.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/indian-illegal-immigrants-in-us-numbers-jumped-125-since-2000/

The anti-immigration groups in the US have done a good job at masquerading as anti-illegal immigrants.  But FAIR, CIS, and NumbersUSA are anti-immigration across the board.  For instance, Mark Krikorian Executive Director of CIS, wrote a book entitled KEEP THEM OUT: THE CASE AGAINST ILLEGAL AND LEGAL IMMIGRATION.  

What&#039;s even odder, and was exposed by Wall Street Journal journalist Jason Riley, was that these anti-immigrant groups have a radical environmentalist anti-human ideology behind them.  Their founders advocate for a one-child policy and believe the population of the US should not be greater than 100 million.  

The anti-immigration crowd has disguised themselves as &quot;right of center&quot; and anti-illegal immigrant.  Both contentions are untrue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fastest growing group of illegal immigrants in California are Indians, most of whom are highly skilled and overstay their H-1B visas in hopes of attaining a green card.  </p>
<p>As this article states:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;They come here as professionals, most often in the H-1B program, and given the fluctuations of Silicon Valley, the business climate, these guys lose their jobs. They get laid off or they wager their hands on a start-up coming in,&#8217; Jack said. &#8216;The problem with the H-1B program is, you can’t have any significant time between jobs” without falling out of legal status.&#8217;&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://escapefromindia.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/indian-illegal-immigrants-in-us-numbers-jumped-125-since-2000/" rel="nofollow">http://escapefromindia.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/indian-illegal-immigrants-in-us-numbers-jumped-125-since-2000/</a></p>
<p>The anti-immigration groups in the US have done a good job at masquerading as anti-illegal immigrants.  But FAIR, CIS, and NumbersUSA are anti-immigration across the board.  For instance, Mark Krikorian Executive Director of CIS, wrote a book entitled KEEP THEM OUT: THE CASE AGAINST ILLEGAL AND LEGAL IMMIGRATION.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s even odder, and was exposed by Wall Street Journal journalist Jason Riley, was that these anti-immigrant groups have a radical environmentalist anti-human ideology behind them.  Their founders advocate for a one-child policy and believe the population of the US should not be greater than 100 million.  </p>
<p>The anti-immigration crowd has disguised themselves as &#8220;right of center&#8221; and anti-illegal immigrant.  Both contentions are untrue.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat Friedman</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/powered-by-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-6125</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea behind the startup visa movement is to make it easier to become a legal immigrant. That&#039;s not so easy today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea behind the startup visa movement is to make it easier to become a legal immigrant. That&#8217;s not so easy today.</p>
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		<title>By: Wei Weng</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/powered-by-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-6124</link>
		<dc:creator>Wei Weng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nat,

But aren&#039;t all of them “legal immigrants&quot;?

I don&#039;t think there were any anti-legal-immigrant sentiment in this country. It is rather against &quot;illegal immigrant&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nat,</p>
<p>But aren&#8217;t all of them “legal immigrants&#8221;?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there were any anti-legal-immigrant sentiment in this country. It is rather against &#8220;illegal immigrant&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat Friedman</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/powered-by-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-6117</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, thanks for the feedback. The page is a wiki, feel free to edit it! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, thanks for the feedback. The page is a wiki, feel free to edit it! <img src='http://nat.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joe Buck</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/powered-by-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-6115</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nat,

Alberto Sangiovanni Vicentelli is not the founder of Synopsys.  Aart de Geus is (look him up on Wikipedia). However, you can still put Synopsys in your &quot;founded by immigrants&quot; column; de Geus is Dutch, though he spent most of his youth i(and got his master&#039;s degree) in Switzerland.

Prof. S-V has been going around taking credit for the accomplishments of his students, and his consulting role in the founding of Cadence and Synopsys, to the point where he is regularly (and falsely) credited as a founder. But you don&#039;t found companies by sitting on the sidelines giving advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nat,</p>
<p>Alberto Sangiovanni Vicentelli is not the founder of Synopsys.  Aart de Geus is (look him up on Wikipedia). However, you can still put Synopsys in your &#8220;founded by immigrants&#8221; column; de Geus is Dutch, though he spent most of his youth i(and got his master&#8217;s degree) in Switzerland.</p>
<p>Prof. S-V has been going around taking credit for the accomplishments of his students, and his consulting role in the founding of Cadence and Synopsys, to the point where he is regularly (and falsely) credited as a founder. But you don&#8217;t found companies by sitting on the sidelines giving advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Lattimer</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/powered-by-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-6100</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Lattimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The transistor was invented by 1 British bloke, a Chinese national who emigrated to the US and a US citizen from a German family, at bell labs in the US...

I think for all and any achievements of immigrants to the US, this stands alone as a prime example of immigration being important to the US...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The transistor was invented by 1 British bloke, a Chinese national who emigrated to the US and a US citizen from a German family, at bell labs in the US&#8230;</p>
<p>I think for all and any achievements of immigrants to the US, this stands alone as a prime example of immigration being important to the US&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/powered-by-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-6096</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing the &#039;conquest&#039; of America to modern immigration... hmm.

Anyway. I want to raise a point about the illegal immigrants in America - they form the workforce that cleans the toilets and handles the garbage (among other things, of course). Economically it makes sense for companies to employ these kind of people, because they are cheap and disposable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing the &#8216;conquest&#8217; of America to modern immigration&#8230; hmm.</p>
<p>Anyway. I want to raise a point about the illegal immigrants in America &#8211; they form the workforce that cleans the toilets and handles the garbage (among other things, of course). Economically it makes sense for companies to employ these kind of people, because they are cheap and disposable.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://nat.org/blog/2009/12/powered-by-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-6095</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All companies not founded by American Indians were founded by immigrants.  There is nothing impressive about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All companies not founded by American Indians were founded by immigrants.  There is nothing impressive about it.</p>
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